My Dining Out Challenge: The Kids’ Menu

by Jana on January 16, 2012

Going out to eat with my daughter is a challenge. She’s extremely picky when it comes to restaurant food, and she often picks what I could make for free at home (sometimes she even tells me that she’d rather I cook. That? Is flattering). That is to say, she likes to order from the children’s menu. I, on the other hand, cannot stand the children’s menu.

I find the children’s menu in most restaurants disgusting. For starters, people always complain that their kids will only eat macaroni and cheese, chicken nuggets, hot dogs or peanut butter and jelly. Many parents want their kids to try and eat new foods, yet when we go to a restaurant, what happens? We are inundated with the same choices we are trying to remove from our kids’ diets.  Kids’ menus only reinforce the stereotype that kids will only eat these foods and, as parents, we’re left with limited choices.

Why are we trying to remove those foods? Because they’re unhealthy, boring, and bland.  Even meals that you think are healthy are not. For instance, you would think that a turkey and cheese sandwich from Panera Bread is healthy.  The sandwich alone is about 400 calories. Add in milk and the yogurt, and the meal is easily around 600 calories. That’s a lot for a small child to consume at one meal (and if your kid is anything like mine, she will eat almost all of it).

They’re also a ripoff. Kids’ meals are expensive. Most of the restaurant we frequent will nickel and dime you on the cost of a kids’ meal. A couple of weeks ago, we went to Saladworks. My daughter originally wanted soup but when she saw that she could get a sandwich, she wanted that instead.  In an effort to avoid a tantrum, I relented and let her pick a sandwich from the kids’ menu thinking that it would a) be smaller and b) a better value. It was not. The sandwich alone cost about $6. I thought it came with a side of apples or chips; it did not. I had to pay an extra $.75 for the apples. We got around the drink by getting a small cup and filling it with water but had we not done that, her drink would have been another $2.29. This is unacceptable to me.

So what can we do to combat the kids’ menu disaster? Well, there are a few things:

  • Share an entrée with your child. When you’re deciding what to order, have you child look at the menu with you. Talk about the different foods that are available and encourage your child to try one of the adult options. My kid is more apt to try something if I’m eating it so this works well for me. It’s more cost effective, too.
  • Ask your waiter/waitress if there are substitutions available. Let’s say you can’t get your child to order from off the kids’ menu but you know that the portion of fries that comes with the hamburger or hot dog is enough to feed two grown adults. Ask your server if you can get vegetables or some other substitution. If not, make sure you ask for a seriously reduced portion of fries. If that’s not possible, immediately remove half the fries from your child’s plate.
  • If the meal comes with a drink, ask what options are available. If milk is an option, ask if it’s whole, skim or something in between. If it’s only juice or soda, you can substitute with water instead or, for the juice, dilute it with water (we do this at home to cut the sugars that are in the juice). The third option is to limit the amount of glasses your child consumes. My daughter loves lemonade. When we go out to eat, we’ll sometimes let her get a glass of lemonade but we only let her have one. It definitely saves on calories (and emergency trips to the bathroom later on).
  • Make restaurant food an adventure. If your kid only wants grilled cheese or a hot dog, tell her that we eat in restaurants to try new foods; we can eat those other things at home. Use the menu as a sort of choose your own adventure book or a pirate’s treasure map to find something new.

Eating in restaurants is a perfect opportunity to teach our kids about new, exciting foods, as well as teaching them how to get the best value for your dollar. It’s not always possible and sometimes we just let our kids eat the hot dog, fries and lemonade. It’s OK. Sometimes.  We can just try again next time.

How do you try to combat the kids’ menu disaster?

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After several weeks of trying to get my dining out budget under control, I think I’m getting the hang of it. Oh, I still have a long way to go since I continue to overspend my budget but I’m getting better. Case in point: my Groupon experience.

At this point, Groupon is pretty common vernacular. I believe it started out as a group deals site. In other words, a restaurant or company would offer a deal that  would only be valid if a certain number of people bought the deal; if not enough people purchased it, the deal would be invalid (I could be completely wrong about this. It would not be the first time). While it remains a group deals site, I believe that it has gotten popular enough where deals become invalid, although they do get sold out.  While Groupon remains the godfather of group deals sites, many more, such as Living Social, have evolved.

I think these sites are a great idea. They’re a great way to save money and encourage people to try activities or services that they might not ordinarily try. Great promotion for the company, great price (usually) for the customer.  That said, I’m not a frequent user of Groupon or Living Social. There’s a reason for this. Although I live about 40 minutes from Philadelphia, I don’t live in Pennsylvania. I live in Delaware. And Delaware is apparently the land that Groupon forgot.

Approximately 9 out of every 10 deals I receive in my inbox are for deals in the Philadelphia suburbs. An hour or more from my house. It’s frustrating because some of the restaurant deals are unbelievable but the money I would spend in gas getting to some of these places would null any restaurant savings. Then, one day, to my sheer glee, a Groupon appeared in my inbox with an offer to my favorite vegetarian restaurant. I was over the moon with excitement and before I could even finish saying the restaurant’s name, I had purchased $20 worth of food for $10.

What’s even better is that $20 all but covers an entire meal for my family at this restaurant (the prices are really reasonable. One of the benefits of it being centrally located on Main St. near a major university). I was so excited to go to lunch for basically free. What was even nicer is that Groupon has a free iPhone app so I didn’t even have to print the offer. I just had to pull it up on my phone! This is perfect for the forgetful person like me.

When we got to the restaurant, I immediately told our server that we had a Groupon. I don’t want to say that it affected her treatment of us but it did affect the way she treated us. Which was a huge disappointment because we usually get very good service at this particular restaurant. Anyway, my daughter’s meal, including drink, was $4.50. Mine was $8 and I drank water. My husband’s meal was about $11 and his soda was another $2.50. By using the Groupon and then adding another $10 (I may be a little off on the prices), we got a $30 meal for $20. For someone who’s awful with coupons, I think I did a good job.

I do acknowledge that we could have done a little better. For instance, my husband could have drunk water rather than soda. He and I could have split an appetizer instead of each getting a sandwich.  He could have put chicken in his sandwich rather than tuna, saving $1 or $2. We could have made little tweaks here or there so that we only would have had to leave the tip and had the Groupon cover the cost of the entire meal. But we’re taking baby steps, and this certainly was an improvement over a similar meal at the same restaurant 2 months ago.

I’m hoping that Groupon puts out another offer for a local restaurant. I can get used to this!

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Subway recently announced that it was teaming up with MasterCard’s PayPass, becoming one of the first restaurants to offer the Google Wallet payment option to customers. The sandwich shop is gearing up to bring PayPass to some of its 7,000 chain locations by 2012′s first quarter.

What is Google Wallet?

Google Wallet is an innovative mobile payment system that uses something called “near field communication”. This means that a 4G phone with the Google Wallet app can be tapped at participating PayPass-enabled terminals as a method of payment. The payments are fast, secure and convenient and plenty of merchants are already planning for PayPass-enabled updates at checkout.

Credit cards, loyalty cards and even gift cards can all be loaded into a 4G mobile device. The credit card account information is communicated to the PayPass terminal when the phone is tapped at checkout. Merchants who are already accepting Google Wallet payments include Macy’s, RadioShack, Walgreens and Foot Locker, but restaurants haven’t been too keen about jumping on board.

Going into 2012, the only restaurants accepting Google Wallet, aside from Subway, are Jamba Juice, Jack in the Box, McDonald’s and Dairy Queen. Google Wallet at fast food restaurants makes sense given the nature of these quick chain food stores, but will dine-in restaurants offer this option in the future?

The Dine-In Dilemma

Dining in a traditional restaurant, not Subway or McDonalds, means having the check brought to the table and the server taking up the payment. Since payments are made through the server terminals, it’s unrealistic to think that Google Wallet will be used in dine-in restaurants anytime soon. Few customers would be comfortable having a server borrow their cell phones, taking them out of sight, in order to make Google Wallet payments. The risks involved include dropping or damaging phones or getting them mixed up with another customer’s. Would servers even want to deal with this type of new hassle? It’s doubtful.

This doesn’t mean that the potential doesn’t exist for Google Wallet to become so widespread that even restaurants begin accepting the new technology. Since the Google Wallet app can store multiple credit cards at once, it’s more convenient than carrying around a wallet full of plastic and the more people who buy 4G mobile devices and try the app, the more likely new technologies will stem from this.

It’s feasible to think that Google Wallet can someday be accepted at restaurants if a mobile PayPass terminal is developed. A portable terminal that can be brought to the table just like a check will need to be created first, solving all of the problems associated with Google Wallet and restaurant dining. Even so, this won’t happen for quite a while, meaning that old-fashioned credit cards won’t be going out of style in the immediate future.

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Dinner time is a special time in my family. Like many families, it is the time where we sit around, discuss our day, laugh, talk and have the occasional spelling bee. It’s the one time of day where we are unencumbered with work, cell phones, TV and everything else except the melodic sounds of our barking dogs. When we go out to eat, we try to have the same atmosphere (with the exception of the barking dogs, of course). I have always been annoyed when I have been in a restaurant and see families not talking, staring at their cell phones, kids watching DVDs or listening to iPods…it’s still mealtime. Just because it’s in a restaurant doesn’t mean that it’s still not a family meal.

But then, one day, we became one of those families.

It was not too long ago. We were sitting in a restaurant that was crowded and understaffed and it was taking awhile for us to place our order. Usually I remember to bring a coloring book and crayons or something along those lines to keep my daughter entertained during such times but not this time. Nope, this time I brought nothing with me. Except my iPhone.

My daughter was starting to get very fussy and no amount of talking or one-on-one attention was getting her to calm down. I get it. She was hungry and you wouldn’t like her when she’s hungry. However, we were in public and one of her epic tantrums was not acceptable. Her tantrums are ugly and as I know what they look like, I adamantly refuse to let her have one in public (especially in a restaurant, where people are eating). So I did what any panicked mother would do. I pulled out my iPhone, quickly downloaded a game for her and stuck my phone in her hand.

She calmed down. She became occupied and patient.  The fact that it was taking longer than usual suddenly became not so bad. But it made me feel awful. I never wanted to be the parent who had to rely on technology to calm her kid down. Yet here I was. I was that parent.

The situation got me thinking about other methods I could have used to stop my daughter’s impending tantrum. For instance, I could have:

  • Taken her out of the restaurant to calm down
  • Used what was available (such as chopsticks) to try to entertain her
  • Explained to her why we don’t behave like that in restaurants
  • Started another impromptu spelling bee
  • Encouraged her to start telling us one of her amazingly imaginative stories
  • Asked her what she would like to do when dinner was done
  • Reviewed with her what she had learned at school that week
  • Talked to her about our upcoming trip to Disney World
  • Had her read the menu with me and let her pick out options for my meal

Basically, I could have done any number of things before I went to the crutch of technology. Unfortunately, it was such a quick and easy solution and my immediate motivation was to head off the tantrum before it started that I didn’t think of the ramifications. The main ramification? Now she expects to play with my phone every time we’re in a restaurant.

We are about 50/50 with letting her use it versus not. She does understand that it is a special treat and it’s not something that she gets all the time. But I am sorry that I opened that door.

What methods do you use to keep your kids occupied in restaurants? 

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My Dining Out Challenge: Second Attempt

by Jana on November 27, 2011

After my previous dining out success, I was feeling confident about my skills and my ability to repeat the success.  So I stepped it up. I suggested that we go out to dinner.

I feel that I may have jumped the gun a bit. Here’s what happened:

Money saving strategy #1: Have a budget

We did this during our first attempt and it was perfect. We knew exactly how much money we had to spend. We knew that we had to stick to this amount or we were going to have problems (I hate not being able to leave a proper tip and when we go over our budget for food, we have to cut back somewhere. It’s not the server’s fault we can’t pay attention to price. I don’t feel he or she should have to literally pay for our mistake). Since we were going to dinner, we had to up the budget from $30 to $50. For this amount of money, we knew we could go to a few local restaurants. We chose the one that was closest to home due to the time and a very cranky 5 year old in the back seat.

Money saving strategy #2: Select a restaurant that will pay us back

Although the decision to eat at this particular restaurant was made mainly due to time constraints and a need to get food into my child, we also selected it because they have one of those “frequent flyer” cards. You know, the kind where you get a little punch every time you make a purchase. Well, for this restaurant, you get a little stamp marking the amount of money you spent and when the card gets to $200 spent, you receive a $20 gift certificate. We had about $15 left to spend until our card was full so we figured we’d go there, fill the card and get our gift certificate. $20 purchases lunch for my husband and me on another day. So, essentially, we received a free meal by selecting this particular restaurant.

Money saving strategy #3: Share food, pay attention to price and adjust accordingly

We also used this strategy during our first attempt. Since we were eating Chinese food, it was easy to share dishes.  When we looked at the menu, problems set in. I don’t eat most meat (I do eat fish) and the seafood dishes are way too expensive.  After much discussion and back and forth, we settled on one chicken dish and one tofu dish. We also ordered soup for each of us and my husband and I shared spring rolls. The total bill came to $32.50, and we left a $7 tip (we all drank water).  I was elated that we walked out of there with $10 in our pockets plus the $20 gift certificate.

Then my husband announced that he wanted ice cream. We were all set to pick up a pint at the supermarket but, on the way there, he noticed that a local ice cream shop was open. Now, this place has spectacular ice cream but it is expensive. And, of course, my daughter wanted ice cream as well. And, of course, I began to twitch because I knew that I was no longer going to be able to put that $10 back into the restaurant envelope. My husband ordered his waffle cone, my daughter ordered her cone and I didn’t want anything. I was prepared to surrender the remaining $10 but somehow, by daughter’s ice cream wound up being free and we came home with $5. Victory!

Not quite the success I was hoping for but the free ice cream and $20 gift certificate certainly helped ease the pain a bit.  I don’t think I’m quite ready for the challenge of dinner.

Have you had any success saving money on your restaurant dining lately?

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Buy $50 in gift cards at Applebee’s and get a free $10 bonus card.  This offer is not available at all locations and isn’t available online, so make sure to call first.  The $10 bonus card expires on February 29, 2012.  (Many restaurants require you to buy $100 worth of gift cards to get a bonus card, so if you want to spend less, this is a good deal.)

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Buy $100 worth of gift cards from Stir Crazy or Flat Top Grill and get a free $25 bonus card.  (The bonus card is redeemable between January 15, 2012 and March 15, 2012.)

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If you go to Spaghetti Warehouse today between 11 a.m. and 5 p.m and buy a $25 gift card, you will get a certificate for a free lasagna.  Offer is good today only.  (Not valid in some Texas locations.)

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Get $25 Restaurant.com Certificates for $2

November 25, 2011

Restaurant.com is offering their $25 certificates for as low as $2 when you use the code SAVE now through November 27th.  This means by spending $2 to buy the certificate, you get $25 off your restaurant tab.  At this price, I usually buy a few and stock up because they are good for a year. [...]

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Get a $20 Bonus Gift Card at Outback Steakhouse

November 17, 2011

Outback Steakhouse is running a holiday deal–buy $100 worth of gift cards, and then get a free $20 bonus card for yourself.  Of course, you don’t have to buy the gift cards for your friends; you can always buy them for yourself if you like to dine out at Outback and want to save money [...]

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